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Paul Kedrosky · 2 years ago

Leaving aside the merits of the decision, you Canadians need to get out more. Temecula is commuter country for San Diego, a mere 90-minute drive north-northeast.

Rob Hyndman · 2 years ago

Sure, we're still experimenting, so who knows, give it a try. But at some point it's not going to make sense spending time on effort that doesn't produce $.

Mathew Ingram · 2 years ago

Thanks for that, Paul. I'm secretly pleased to hear that people in San Diego regularly commute for 90 minutes or more :-)

And Rob, I actually think there are ways that a local station can translate YouTube viewership into money -- although it probably would have been easier if they had used Revver.

Rob Hyndman · 2 years ago

Seems to me that giving your existing viewers a new way to watch your content that produces less revenue per viewer for you for those viewers, in the hopes of picking up extra viewers at those lower rates, doesn't really make sense..

Seems to me that they would lose more existing TV viewers to the web than new viewers they would pick up, and that the rates on the web, being untargeted, would produce much less revenue per view.

Seems like a hail mary to me - like I said, no harm in seeing what happens, I suppose - but I don't see the logic of it.

Mathew Ingram · 2 years ago

A Hail Mary pass it may be, but at the same time I don't really see what choice a small station (or any station) really has. It has to experiment, in the same way that newspapers have to experiment.

Your argument that this amounts to giving away their content -- in the hope that it will either drive traffic to their TV programming or generate ad sales on the Internet, but at lower rates -- is identical to the argument that newspapers have been having about putting their content online for free.

The rationale is a) that they have to, because that's where the people are and b) because they might be able to generate additional brand awareness and traffic that they can then (theoretically) monetize.

Rob Hyndman · 2 years ago

Well, I take your point, but don't think it's right to say it's identical, actually, and that's the difference I'm talking about. I think that the right medium to experiment on is still a question of when and how, and that that varies by media, and my point is really that the right approach for one is not necessarily the right approach for the other.

So, TV is defacto a captive audience - captive to the high bandwidth of cable, a large screen, high resolution, stereo sound, and the like - people will for a while still have major attachment to that. I don't really see a need yet for the hail mary - I agree that it's coming, but it still seems to me to be way off. So giving your marginal viewers a way to not show up on your Neilsen ratings - or whatever they use - while earning what must really be marginal ad revenue seems very early to me. I certainly get the appeal of trying to amp up the involvement that people have with the content by applying social media tools to it - that sounds very cool, and there could be neat things one could do with programming in that vein - viewer suggestions and feedback, and the like. Maybe that's a better way to look at it ....

Michael O'Connor Clarke · 2 years ago

I agree with Rob's last comment there - the new hotness of this, if hotness there is, probably exists in "trying to amp up the involvement that people have with the content by applying social media tools to it".

But I also think that KZSW's decision could be seen as a good example of what Doc Searls calls the "because effect" - that is, while other people look to make money with something, KZSW in this case may be exploring ways of making money because of something.

Sure, KZSW may be missing out on potential TV ad revenue, and sure they're most likely going to end up screwing with their CPM - but the experiment is still worthwhile. And CPM is such a crock anyway. It's a crock upon which an enormous industry has been built, I know, but 'tis no less a crock for a' that.

Who knows what kind of extra viewership this could generate for them, and what goodness might spring forth from that...?

Mathew Ingram · 2 years ago

Totally, violently agree Michael -- especially with the CPM thing, but also with the "because" thing.

John Roberts · 2 years ago

I am the C.O.O. of KZSW-TV. We are actually 40 minutes from San Diego. Many of the comments I have read are being made based on assumptions that don't apply to us. Although we are considered to be part of the L.A. DMA, we have no numbers to sell with. We are a low power station that does not enjoy must carry rules for local cable. We do not sell CPM or CPPor any thing that is related to ratings. We sell results. It has been a long road but you must understand we are the only local TV station in a market of 4 million people. All other local news comes from L.A. stations. Any where else in the country we would be our own major market.
This is called the Inland Empire and includes Riverside and San Bernradino Counties. We use many sources of distribution so viewers who want local news can find it. (Including UHF antenas.) U-Tube has been fun and we hope it has sold a car or two for our clients. We are also on Verizon FiOS who contributes our local news with their fastest growing markets anywhere in the country. We also offer much of our local progamming on our web-site via VOD. When we talk with our advertisers, we show them all of the ways viewers can recieve it. We continue to look for avenues of distribution... where we can include our advertisers commercials. What we offer is local TV news. It is working for us.

Mathew · 2 years ago

Thanks for the comment, John. I appreciate you providing some background -- and good luck.