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Re: Well done, Dan — failure is educational

Mathew — Wed, 25 Jan 2006 11:00:29 -0000

I'll be interested to see what comes of it too, Mike. I know Dan is going to be working on a non-profit centre for citizen media, but hopefully he'll be doing other things too. I imagine he's learned a lot.

Re: Well done, Dan — failure is educational

Mike McDerment | 2ndSite — Wed, 25 Jan 2006 09:56:59 -0000

I'm curious to see what he does next - whether he tries something else or goes back to working for someone else.

He's clearly learned a lot; much of it will be applicable to his next venture(s).

For me I know I cut my teeth organizing an event. Lost a pile of money the first year, was profitable for the next six (having broken even again in year three). I learned so much in years one and two about how to live and succeed (read learned about entrepreneurial lifestyle) when building something. Dan's learned this now too...again, curious to see if he applies it.

Re: Well done, Dan — failure is educational

Mathew — Wed, 25 Jan 2006 08:58:22 -0000

I agree, Eric -- and it certainly makes it an interesting time for those of us in the media business. Nothing like a little upheaval and/or creative destruction to keep you on your toes :-)

Re: Well done, Dan — failure is educational

Eric Berlin — Wed, 25 Jan 2006 04:23:35 -0000

Yes, I must admit that I like and admire the Newsvine model as well, at least at this early stage -- it's really nice mix of "hard news" (with the ability to comment added, something you'll likely never see at a reuters.com) and bloggy elements. What that bloggy element "brings to the table" and adds to the mix will be very interesting and will likely help to determine the long-term success of that venture.

Your work seems to always hit on the themes I'm thinking a lot about, Matthew! I agree, everyone interested in this area is looking at what works, what doesn't, what *should* work but doesn't, and vice versa! And yes, unless you have the enormous built in traffic of a Google or Yahoo, it's very hard to build a stable traffic base. So I think that's partly why we're seeing aggregators on top of aggregators. It's really a mess in a lot of ways! But it also makes perfect sense given the explosion of media, information, people coming online, and relative newness of it all.

Re: Well done, Dan — failure is educational

Mathew — Tue, 24 Jan 2006 20:51:12 -0000

I'd have to agree with Kottke. Digg's selection process (and reddit and the others) is a little too scattershot for me, and Slashdot is somewhere in the middle -- although often the comments about other people's comments are as much fun as the post itself. Still, there is some human filtering that goes on, which adds a lot. That's what I like about the Newsvine model too.

Re: Well done, Dan — failure is educational

Rob Hyndman — Tue, 24 Jan 2006 20:44:32 -0000

On editorial quality control a la Digg, see the latest from Kottke:

http://www.kottke.org/06/01/quality-editorial

(Hey, cool comment feature!)