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<rss xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0"><channel><title>Mathew's comments - Latest Comments in Softbank buys into &amp;#8220;citizen journalism&amp;#8221;</title><link>http://mathewingram.disqus.com/</link><description></description><atom:link href="https://mathewingram.disqus.com/softbank_buys_into_8220citizen_journalism8221/latest.rss" rel="self"></atom:link><language>en</language><lastBuildDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2006 15:30:17 -0000</lastBuildDate><item><title>Re: Softbank buys into &amp;#8220;citizen journalism&amp;#8221;</title><link>http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2006/02/22/softbank-buys-into-citizen-journalism/#comment-1292771</link><description>&lt;p&gt;A fair point, Seth.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Mathew</dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2006 15:30:17 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Softbank buys into &amp;#8220;citizen journalism&amp;#8221;</title><link>http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2006/02/22/softbank-buys-into-citizen-journalism/#comment-1292769</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Hey,  â€œunpaid freelancingâ€? works from either direction.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Some people are overjoyed at the prospect of replacing professional journalism with unpaid freelancing.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Some people are appalled at the prospect of replacing professional journalism with unpaid freelancing.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;But in either case, I think both are in agreement that the "citizens" do not get paid, and this is the key aspect (I'm not sure I should use the word "feature").&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Why is ohmynews the New New Thing? You can almost hear the salivations ("It looks like news, AND WE DON'T HAVE TO PAY THE WRITERS!")&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Quote the Wired article: "The pay ranges from nothing to about $16, depending on how a story is ranked by the editors -- "basic," "bonus" or "special." ... If an idea has legs, a citizen reporter will pick it up and report it on their own time and expense."&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;[Translation: "They do the deveopment for nothing, we give them a few peanuts if it's extra-good"]&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Why should anybody be cheering the outsourcing of journalism? Doesn't it seem at least a little bit bothersome as to who is directly in line to benefit? (hint: not "the public" - rather, the media companies).&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Seth Finkelstein</dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2006 15:00:03 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Softbank buys into &amp;#8220;citizen journalism&amp;#8221;</title><link>http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2006/02/22/softbank-buys-into-citizen-journalism/#comment-1292767</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks, Amy.  I totally agree.  It will be interesting to see whether OhMyNews manages to be as successful outside of South Korea as it has been inside, and how other services such as &lt;a href="http://Topix.net" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" title="Topix.net"&gt;Topix.net&lt;/a&gt; and Newsvine evolve as well.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Thanks for the comment.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Mathew&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Mathew</dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2006 14:42:40 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Softbank buys into &amp;#8220;citizen journalism&amp;#8221;</title><link>http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2006/02/22/softbank-buys-into-citizen-journalism/#comment-1292765</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi, Mathew&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I've been fascinated by the emerging phenonmenon of citizen journalism for a while now. And yes, it's a clumsy, inadequate label for something that hasn't yet fully formed.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I pondered exactly this point yesterday in "I, Reporter": "Citizen Journalism as Horseless Carriage"&lt;br&gt;- &lt;a href="http://snipurl.com/mvfh" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" title="http://snipurl.com/mvfh"&gt;http://snipurl.com/mvfh&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I do think, however, that "user-generated content" is too generic. The forces driving the growth of citizen journalism are more specific than simply the urge to publish. It's more about a desire and need for people to be more involved directly in creating news, rather than being relegated to a passive "news audience" role.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;But a name is a name is a name. Ultimately, it doesn't matter so much what you call it as what you do with it.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;As for "unpaid freelancing" (noted by Seth, above), Yes I can understand why some people view citizen journalists in that dismissive light. In particular, I know several professional journalists and editors who are positively incensed by the concept. It is disruptive, and even threatening to some people.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I'd encourage everyone to realize that what we're currently calling "citizen journalism" is still emerging and developing. I think it's too early to say yet exactly what part of the media landscape it will occupy -- although I do think it will stick around.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;IMHO, of course&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;- Amy Gahran&lt;br&gt;  &lt;a href="http://RightConversation.com" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" title="RightConversation.com"&gt;RightConversation.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;  &lt;a href="http://Contentious.com" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" title="Contentious.com"&gt;Contentious.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;  &lt;a href="http://IReporter.org" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" title="IReporter.org"&gt;IReporter.org&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Amy Gahran</dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2006 13:52:55 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Softbank buys into &amp;#8220;citizen journalism&amp;#8221;</title><link>http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2006/02/22/softbank-buys-into-citizen-journalism/#comment-1292763</link><description>&lt;p&gt;I prefer to call it "unpaid freelancing"&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Seth Finkelstein</dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2006 03:05:21 -0000</pubDate></item></channel></rss>