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Re: Seesmic and Twhirl: Why all the fuss?

techwinter — Tue, 15 Apr 2008 19:12:56 -0000

@Andrew I do this to Twitter too. For me Twitter is just a vehicle, but I think Matt's point is that he wasn't being deceptive and / or pushy. I just have an auto twitter in my WP and it automatically pushes out the articles. I don't try to make them any more or less than what they are and my followers know to expect them and if they so desire to read them.

@Matt I agree with your attitude but in a hawkish environment such as the online media world is you need hardcore titles to get attention that being said making it personal and being salacious is not the way to go.

Principled and disciplined is the way forward if we want to get respect and grow our readership.

Re: Seesmic and Twhirl: Why all the fuss?

techwinter — Tue, 15 Apr 2008 19:08:06 -0000

@Luca@Mat, totally agree, before the web we worried about companies like TimeWarner controlling everything we read and now we have so many different websites jockeying for readers that they end up in essence writing about the same material.

More is not always better I guess. Is the content today journalism? It certainly is not investigative or introspective.

@Matt can you email me as I want to do a podcast with you. Should be easy to get in touch with me as I am registered with Disqus.

Cheers to all
Roger

Re: Seesmic and Twhirl: Why all the fuss?

Jeremy Toeman — Fri, 04 Apr 2008 18:54:55 -0000

I also can't figure out why SO MANY people are covering this topic?!?! 2 startups that are effectively unknown outside of the 94xxx zip code (yourself not included Mathew!) are all over the place today... bizarre.

Re: Seesmic and Twhirl: Why all the fuss?

robsafuto — Fri, 04 Apr 2008 18:51:44 -0000

I'm feeling very jaded today so I think that you're probably right about it being a slow news day. Seesmic has a problem in that their user base is passionate, but it's also very small. Twitter is at what 600K users? Seesmic has probably in the low double-digit thousands. So Seesmic needs to do something to get attention in order to build their user base. The Twirl buy is this week's attention getter.

Re: Seesmic and Twhirl: Why all the fuss?

mathewi — Fri, 04 Apr 2008 16:30:04 -0000

Point taken, Andrew. But at least I didn't say "Hey, I posted a new
blog post -- come and read it!" and then force you to watch a bunch of
boring video :-)

Re: Seesmic and Twhirl: Why all the fuss?

andrew — Fri, 04 Apr 2008 16:27:23 -0000

If what this deal means is that I get more “I’m streaming — come chat!” invitations every 10 minutes on Twitter, then count me out.

Hey Mr. " @mathewi [blog post] ...", guess how I arrived at this post. ;-)

Re: Seesmic and Twhirl: Why all the fuss?

techwinter — Fri, 04 Apr 2008 16:16:39 -0000

I am with Alan, except my focus is on the purpose of the buy. Conversation on that at my site.

Re: Seesmic and Twhirl: Why all the fuss?

mathewi — Fri, 04 Apr 2008 15:57:03 -0000

That's kind of my point, JB -- a Twitter client isn't exactly rocket
surgery, if you know what I mean. So I guess Loic just bought himself
a guy who knows how to design clients in AIR -- hope he didn't pay too
much.

Re: Seesmic and Twhirl: Why all the fuss?

jbminn — Fri, 04 Apr 2008 15:52:26 -0000

Hey Mathew,

This is a a play straight out of Adobe's (nee Macromedia's) book. Get the client (flash in their case) installed everywhere, and then use it as a channel for the *real* model.

What no one seems to have grasped (yet) is that Twhirl has not only gotten *itself* installed on all these boxes - it got *Adobe AIR* installed too.

This means that anyone who wants to create an AIR application & leverage that existing user base has one less obstacle. That's the interesting part.

It also positions Seesmic for a quick left-turn if the video-blogging doesn't become popular. I don't see video-blogging becoming popular enough & the resulting revenue stream (what exactly is the model?) large enough to carry a large business.

But Loic has to be careful here. With the Twitter API published, these clients are easily produced.

Re: Seesmic and Twhirl: Why all the fuss?

mathewi — Fri, 04 Apr 2008 15:52:03 -0000

definitely true, Luca.

Re: Seesmic and Twhirl: Why all the fuss?

luca — Fri, 04 Apr 2008 15:19:30 -0000

The point is another one. It's pretty common that a news hits the top of Techmeme NOT because the news itself, but because there is a "popular" person that does something, even if this "something" is nothing special. Instead of paying a developer to do that, he hires who already did it. Nothing special actually, but I learnt that news are driven by people and a often a news IS important if people make it important (bloggers, journalists etc.). You are a journalist, I think I'm not telling you anything new.

Re: Seesmic and Twhirl: Why all the fuss?

buckpost — Fri, 04 Apr 2008 15:17:40 -0000

Alan:
I think you're on the mark. As much as Seesmic as raised money from a bunch of well-known investors and as much as video is hot, I don't sense any real buzz about what Seesmic is doing that will make it successful.

Re: Seesmic and Twhirl: Why all the fuss?

alan p — Fri, 04 Apr 2008 14:59:36 -0000

Matthew, I find it interesting because imho it implies that Seesmic is possibly running out of road as a pure videoblog, and has to do morph into something different. And that is interesting.....thoughts here:

http://www.broadstuff.com/archives/829-Buying-T...