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<rss xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0"><channel><title>Mathew's comments - Latest Comments in PR industry: Still grasping for a clue</title><link>http://mathewingram.disqus.com/</link><description></description><atom:link href="https://mathewingram.disqus.com/pr_industry_still_grasping_for_a_clue_36/latest.rss" rel="self"></atom:link><language>en</language><lastBuildDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 23:33:02 -0000</lastBuildDate><item><title>Re: PR industry: Still grasping for a clue</title><link>http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2008/04/10/pr-industry-still-grasping-for-a-clue/#comment-336485</link><description>&lt;p&gt;I can't believe I missed "rocket surgery"&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Dino </dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 23:33:02 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: PR industry: Still grasping for a clue</title><link>http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2008/04/10/pr-industry-still-grasping-for-a-clue/#comment-330958</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for the comment, John.  I like a paragraph or so summing up&lt;br&gt;what the point of the release is, and then some facts.  More or less&lt;br&gt;the same way someone would write a news story.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">mathewi</dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 11:46:03 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: PR industry: Still grasping for a clue</title><link>http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2008/04/10/pr-industry-still-grasping-for-a-clue/#comment-330949</link><description>&lt;p&gt;We first used the SMPR over two years ago. But you are right - it hasn't caught on and it's a shame. I see two aspects of the SMPR that are important: making it is more useful for any "media" (traditional or non-traditional journalists) to use. That means adding links and multimedia whenever possible. We should be trying to make content as easy as possible to use and that means content formats - text plus video plus pictures. The other is the "social" part or the conversation surrounding content. I wish more clients were ready for this. But they don't have to enable a comment flow in their online media room to make the SMPR useful.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;As for spin vs. facts? I say - tell me why this is important and relevant then give me the facts and content types to run with. But you are the journalist. What makes sense to you? &lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">John Bell</dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 11:42:21 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: PR industry: Still grasping for a clue</title><link>http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2008/04/10/pr-industry-still-grasping-for-a-clue/#comment-329863</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Well said, Mike.  Unfortunately, some things have to be repeated&lt;br&gt;before certain people get the message  :-)&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">mathewi</dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 21:26:02 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: PR industry: Still grasping for a clue</title><link>http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2008/04/10/pr-industry-still-grasping-for-a-clue/#comment-329839</link><description>&lt;p&gt;If I may be so brash as to simply share something I wrote more than one year ago:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.unjournalism.com/2007/03/10/social-media-release-panel-at-the-newcomm-forum/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" title="http://www.unjournalism.com/2007/03/10/social-media-release-panel-at-the-newcomm-forum/"&gt;http://www.unjournalism.com...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;My, how so little has changed.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Thanks for the post, Matt.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">mjkeliher</dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 21:15:27 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: PR industry: Still grasping for a clue</title><link>http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2008/04/10/pr-industry-still-grasping-for-a-clue/#comment-326397</link><description>&lt;p&gt;damn.  i knew i should have registered that -- that and "&lt;a href="http://pizza.com" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" title="pizza.com"&gt;pizza.com&lt;/a&gt;"&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">mathewi</dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 15:53:05 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: PR industry: Still grasping for a clue</title><link>http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2008/04/10/pr-industry-still-grasping-for-a-clue/#comment-326297</link><description>&lt;p&gt;It's probably these guys we have to worry about...they've got the domain:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.rocketsurgery.com/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" title="http://www.rocketsurgery.com/"&gt;http://www.rocketsurgery.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">David Jones</dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 15:35:22 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: PR industry: Still grasping for a clue</title><link>http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2008/04/10/pr-industry-still-grasping-for-a-clue/#comment-326261</link><description>&lt;p&gt;I think you're right, David -- there are lots of tools, and provided they serve to connect journalists or readers or bloggers or customers to something, then I think that's great, whether it's a blog page or delicious links or a YouTube video, or all three put together.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;As for the rocket surgery thing, I promise not to file a claim against  you for trademark infringement if you promise not to do likewise  :-)&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">mathewi</dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 15:29:11 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: PR industry: Still grasping for a clue</title><link>http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2008/04/10/pr-industry-still-grasping-for-a-clue/#comment-326230</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Mat, good post.  As a PR guy and blog nut, I like the SMPR in theory.  I've used them before and they're fine.  But I've also sent emails to guys like you to pitch stories and used links to &lt;a href="http://del.icio.us" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" title="del.icio.us"&gt;del.icio.us&lt;/a&gt; pages and youtube pages that have been set up expressly to make it easy for bloggers/media to find what they need to do the story.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Use your blog if you have a blog, use an SMPR if you've got the time/money, re-do your corporate online newsroom and include embed codes for pics and video, etc., or just do what you suggest and use links in an e-mail.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;This isn't that hard.  Learn news judgment, be a resource, don't waste journos time.  After all, you can put lipstick on a pig...but it's still a pig.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;BTW, I always thought I invented the witty mis-use of "rocket surgery."&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">David Jones</dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 15:24:16 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: PR industry: Still grasping for a clue</title><link>http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2008/04/10/pr-industry-still-grasping-for-a-clue/#comment-325722</link><description>&lt;p&gt;I'm glad someone else noticed this line. I love it - visions of a spaghetti mass of wires sticking out with an engineer yelling "soldering iron stat!"&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">kevinbriody</dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 13:46:55 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: PR industry: Still grasping for a clue</title><link>http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2008/04/10/pr-industry-still-grasping-for-a-clue/#comment-325597</link><description>&lt;p&gt;I would agree with you there, Mike.  Doing that can pretty quickly&lt;br&gt;tell you whether what you're writing about is of interest to anyone.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">mathewi</dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 13:23:10 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: PR industry: Still grasping for a clue</title><link>http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2008/04/10/pr-industry-still-grasping-for-a-clue/#comment-325556</link><description>&lt;p&gt;The idea of making a real blog post is more what I favor. REAL content that is also PR. Serves TWO purposes. It provides information to the press and the organic traffic of people approaching it from their interest validates it as newsworthy.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;-M&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">MikeH</dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 13:16:44 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: PR industry: Still grasping for a clue</title><link>http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2008/04/10/pr-industry-still-grasping-for-a-clue/#comment-325406</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks, Todd.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">mathewi</dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 12:47:05 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: PR industry: Still grasping for a clue</title><link>http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2008/04/10/pr-industry-still-grasping-for-a-clue/#comment-325396</link><description>&lt;p&gt;As one of the "forward-thinking PR practitioners and agencies (that) came up with the idea of an SMPR" (thanks!) I can say only one thing to this post, Mathew:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;AMEN!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Thank you for your advocacy and blunt talk. ;)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;p.s. - FWIW I track reactions to the SMPR at &lt;a href="http://del.icio.us/SHIFT.Communications" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" title="http://del.icio.us/SHIFT.Communications"&gt;http://del.icio.us/SHIFT.Co...&lt;/a&gt;.  Check out tags like SHIFTtemplate and SocialMediaRelease, if interested.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Todd Defren</dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 12:45:57 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: PR industry: Still grasping for a clue</title><link>http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2008/04/10/pr-industry-still-grasping-for-a-clue/#comment-325286</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Social media needs to be social...putting links is is key but that ain't the end game...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I have a big opinion on this puppy - almost all social media fails because PR isn't funding in their companies to do it right.  Links is the minimum starting point.  To do is right is like building a rocket ;-)  A marketing rocket&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://furrier.org/2008/04/11/social-media-release-ok-this-is-in-my-wheelhouse/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" title="http://furrier.org/2008/04/11/social-media-release-ok-this-is-in-my-wheelhouse/"&gt;http://furrier.org/2008/04/...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">John Furrier</dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 12:25:11 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: PR industry: Still grasping for a clue</title><link>http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2008/04/10/pr-industry-still-grasping-for-a-clue/#comment-325044</link><description>&lt;p&gt;I love it!&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">GearsofWar</dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 11:42:02 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: PR industry: Still grasping for a clue</title><link>http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2008/04/10/pr-industry-still-grasping-for-a-clue/#comment-324313</link><description>&lt;p&gt;at least we're not talking about "nuclear rocket surgery!"&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">n8k99</dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 09:17:38 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: PR industry: Still grasping for a clue</title><link>http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2008/04/10/pr-industry-still-grasping-for-a-clue/#comment-324232</link><description>&lt;p&gt;I'm a big fan of Spoonerisms, so you're delong with a pro here.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Paul Kedrosky</dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 08:52:03 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: PR industry: Still grasping for a clue</title><link>http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2008/04/10/pr-industry-still-grasping-for-a-clue/#comment-324135</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Yeah, you like that one?  My own invention  :-)  It's surprising how&lt;br&gt;few people notice.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">mathewi</dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 08:22:03 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: PR industry: Still grasping for a clue</title><link>http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2008/04/10/pr-industry-still-grasping-for-a-clue/#comment-323512</link><description>&lt;p&gt;"Rocket surgery"?&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Paul Kedrosky</dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 01:27:55 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: PR industry: Still grasping for a clue</title><link>http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2008/04/10/pr-industry-still-grasping-for-a-clue/#comment-323328</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Word up!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Engage, engage, engage. Pique interest, give people something thought provoking. Stop talking about how great you are and provide something of value. They'll naturally follow you.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Raza Imam&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href="http://SoftwareSweatshop.com" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" title="http://SoftwareSweatshop.com"&gt;http://SoftwareSweatshop.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">SoftwareSweatshop</dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 23:56:36 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: PR industry: Still grasping for a clue</title><link>http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2008/04/10/pr-industry-still-grasping-for-a-clue/#comment-323293</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Good point, Simon.  I don't much see the difference either, really.&lt;br&gt;I've read lots of blog posts (and news stories, for that matter) that&lt;br&gt;just read like a rewritten press release -- I don't see why a&lt;br&gt;well-written press release shouldn't get just as much prominence.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">mathewi</dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 23:40:02 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: PR industry: Still grasping for a clue</title><link>http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2008/04/10/pr-industry-still-grasping-for-a-clue/#comment-323290</link><description>&lt;p&gt;He seemed to show some apprehension that PR people are sometimes able to bypass bloggers or journalists all together, but I really have no problem with this if the PR release really is a worthy piece of news. I mean, what's the major difference between a press release and a company blog? Nothing, really? So what's so bad about directly linking to a press release?&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Simon Owens</dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 23:37:17 -0000</pubDate></item></channel></rss>