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In what has to qualify as the longest-running bitchmeme — or blogosphere soap opera — in recorded history, Loren Feldman of 1938media and “social media” guru Shel Israel (who co-authored the book Naked Conversations with Robert “Scoblei
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1 year ago
But no one is innocent. It begins with a culture of criticism and backbiting and develops into a space where the parody rings far too true for the comfort of some.
I don't know if I appreciate all the places this has gone, certainly, but I don't think the solution is to become a victim. The ability to choose his response from a variety of options was available to Shel, just like it would be for most of us. And if you really know the space, the proper response is pretty obvious.
Gary Vaynerchuk earned my respect in a big way with his reaction to Loren's parody... he laughed. And then he kept doing his thing.
No one is going to abandon Gary because of Loren's bit, and Gary knows it. The only way it would damage his career is if he turned it into a war.
And we're seeing what the war is accomplishing here... exactly nada.
1 year ago
Mike's or Jason's but to Gary's and to Julia's as well. And I know
(as people keep saying) that it's not up to us to tell Shel how to
respond, and that he shouldn't be picked on, etc. -- except for the
fact that he is supposed to be the guy who gets all of this stuff.
That's the key to why I think some people are less sympathetic than
they might otherwise be -- not just because it's funny, but because
Loren actually has a point, even if he is making it in a cruel way.
1 year ago
respond, and that he shouldn't be picked on, etc. -- except for the
fact that he is supposed to be the guy who gets all of this stuff."
That's the mainpoint of this story for me.
I mean we have here one person who is supposed to be an expert on online conversations, social media, yaddayadda and yet he fails to handle properly one other person with a handpuppet(!) mocking him online.
So Shel either doesn't know what he's talking about or he doesn't know how to put his own knowledge to use.
Either way, not Feldman did hurt Shel Israels reputation but shel did.
It's indeed fascinating how he as an 'expert' completely failed on this.
In fact it's musiclabelexec-fail-level.
1 year ago
it reminds me of the Larry David show. I don't find it all that funny bc it's just like spending an afternoon with my family.
"Your embarrassed? You think I go to far? You think I don't get boundaries? I'll show you boundaries." [insert really loud voice in a full restaurant] "How about this. Penis! "
You get the idea. Loren Feldman. Like every middle class neurotic self-deprecating over analytical love him or hate him Jewish man i know.
1 year ago
pretty darn close :-)
1 year ago
However I also think that the thick skin "real" reporters like you have developed over time may blind you to the fact that as others jump into the writer's fray we run the risk of losing thoughtful voices because they are unwilling to endure the threats and abuse that are increasingly accepted by most of us as part of the online landscape.
[groan - how much actual *work* do Web 2.0 writers actually get done, anyway?]
1 year ago
Matthew, I generally enjoy and respect your work. However, Loren has become the new Jerry Springer and you've now perpetuated the least common denominator by trivializing this issue into a high school soap opera.