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And that if you're looking at the profit margin in absolute terms - to do it on percentages, it would be more like making $7,500+...
@mathewi I agree the headline on that piece was hyperbolic, compared to the more nuanced article. Perhaps an homage of sorts to Gawker?
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@mathewi tried to send you DM or chat. Best way to get in touch offline?
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@mathewi quibble: academic excerpts are often in the context a longer synthesis or direct argument against, not just a simple paraphrase.
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@mathewi good post - nice to see you still posting bud - here's what I thought about that mess http://bit.ly/9zheN<br />
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@StevenHodson: thanks Steven
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@harrisj: a key word in your description is "often" :-) still, point taken.
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@palafo @mathewi headline was likely written by a copy editor?
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@harrisj @palafo: possible -- I know from personal experience that that kind of thing happens sometimes :-)
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I'm with you on most of it, and have been watching the ping pong on that story (or Ying Yang). "Death of Journalism" was a slight exaggeration.
The irony is that Gawker's coverage gave him a boost in click-backs and notoriety, and that's the sad truth that native online media is trumping mainstream online media (in most cases). And they did that without adding any value in terms of analysis or viewpoint (unlike Techdirt which adds something).
At the end of the day, it's about monetization. Shapira's last post received 100+ comments vs. ~ 70 for Gawker (am not sure about # of Views), so it's up to WaPo to monetize that traffic to make-up for their "loss".
I don't mean to put words in the reporter's mouth but there is something strange about all this that no one talks about. Gawker essentially outsourced all the labor of the story to the Washington Post and at the same time gets credit for being lean and efficient and profitable. Apparently the paper is supposed to be grateful for the link.
I'm not saying the solution is lawsuits or more complaining but it's just funny that people like to hold up these sites for their business models and then don't examine the subsidies they take advantage of.
Ryan
If this was an AP originating story, Gawker would have had to pay AP to re-publish it (even in abreviated form)- hence that's why the editor is upset about this.
A case could be made that Gawker should pay something to reprint a story that originated elsewhere. Links back are not a form of payback (although they could be monetized).
On the other hand, how different is this from Gawker re-publishing a story from Techcrunch for e.g.?
@drbrake: I'm guessing, but I'll bet most of the people who thought that would never have seen the WaPo story in the first place
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want more proof? LIFE.com's kissing Digg's proverbial pingback
http://twitter.com/LIFE/status/3107477824
WTF?!?!
so ... yeah ... nothing to see here. this has happened every single year since at least 2003 when i first heard of the "death of journalism" meme.
expect it to happen again in February (when ad buys for the year will once again not happen like in the golden years) and next year's summer.
meh.
@blogcodea Missed you past few days. Working hard, mom duty or both? Congrats on kid's cast removal! Skin's all crusty tho' huh? Yuck.
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@blogcodea did you see this? http://bit.ly/DzKUH<br />
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@TheJLV tl;dr :D is it an actual video series?
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@TheJLV no! who's site is it?
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@drlawmom thanks bb. been working mighty hard indeed. son's arm is more scaly than crusty. looks gross :P thanks for asking.
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@blogcodea it's ours :-)
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@blogcodea oh yes!
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@TheJLV for PR they mention Schomburg but not Sylvia del Villar?!?!? oh snap. let me get my blade :D it's a HUGE project. good 1st effort ;)
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@blogcodea you can always add your voice, miss. not that you weren't. just haven't seen many others do it besides u and I.
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@TheJLV do you know them? they need a wiki, like, yesterday. this kind of project needs it.
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@blogcodea I don't. Found it from one of my friends on facebook. Use their contact page. Make it happen.
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Nice post I Like your site very well and continue to do so.