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<rss xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0"><channel><title>Mathew's comments - Latest Comments in eBay and Craigslist: A fox in the henhouse</title><link>http://mathewingram.disqus.com/</link><description></description><atom:link href="https://mathewingram.disqus.com/ebay_and_craigslist_a_fox_in_the_henhouse_61/latest.rss" rel="self"></atom:link><language>en</language><lastBuildDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 10:26:04 -0000</lastBuildDate><item><title>Re: eBay and Craigslist: A fox in the henhouse</title><link>http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2008/04/30/ebay-and-craigslist-a-fox-in-the-henhouse/#comment-406980</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for clarifying that, Delia -- I meant to add that to the original post.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">mathewi</dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 10:26:04 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: eBay and Craigslist: A fox in the henhouse</title><link>http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2008/04/30/ebay-and-craigslist-a-fox-in-the-henhouse/#comment-406951</link><description>&lt;p&gt;just to clarify: according to ebay's complaint, craigslist did subsequent dilutions of ebay's share of craigslist: the dilution to 25.01% came about in 2005 when employees were given stock options; further dilution to under 25% happened more recently and prompted ebay's law suit.  &lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Delia</dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 10:20:55 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: eBay and Craigslist: A fox in the henhouse</title><link>http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2008/04/30/ebay-and-craigslist-a-fox-in-the-henhouse/#comment-406089</link><description>&lt;p&gt;The legal consequence of the self-dealing is that Craig and Jim now have to prove that the transactions were actually fair - they don't get the benefit of the doubt.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The thing is, they only had the 3 board members, which seemed to have gone down to 2 (Craig and Jim) at the time of the disputed transactions. Not having any independent directors on the board was not a good idea, in hindsight.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Even if they had just nominated a special independent committee for those transactions, that would have at least given them an argument that someone was looking out for the interests of the minority.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">David</dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 03:32:22 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: eBay and Craigslist: A fox in the henhouse</title><link>http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2008/04/30/ebay-and-craigslist-a-fox-in-the-henhouse/#comment-405222</link><description>&lt;p&gt;I agree, David -- it certainly does seem self-interested, and harmful to eBay.  Craigslist is going to have a tough time proving that it was justified or necessary, it seems to me.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">mathewi</dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 21:25:00 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: eBay and Craigslist: A fox in the henhouse</title><link>http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2008/04/30/ebay-and-craigslist-a-fox-in-the-henhouse/#comment-405203</link><description>&lt;p&gt;I agree that it's weird to call it a poison pill, given that it's a private company context. However, it does operate identically to how a true poison pill operates.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I think it would still be considered a "defensive measure" under Delaware law, however, meaning that it has to have a reasonable relation to the threat posed (meaning that the law recognizes that management can take measures to protect their positions).&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;It doesn't look like it really bears any relation to a threat at all, and I think it is also clearly a self-interested transaction. This situation really does demonstrate the "lock-in" problem faced by minority owners in private companies.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">David</dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 21:15:48 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: eBay and Craigslist: A fox in the henhouse</title><link>http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2008/04/30/ebay-and-craigslist-a-fox-in-the-henhouse/#comment-400677</link><description>&lt;p&gt;oops! that way *ebay* (NOT craigslist): Craig&amp;amp; Jim diluted ebay's share of craigslist  D.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Delia</dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 00:40:01 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: eBay and Craigslist: A fox in the henhouse</title><link>http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2008/04/30/ebay-and-craigslist-a-fox-in-the-henhouse/#comment-400671</link><description>&lt;p&gt;little detail: ebay hasn't *always* claimed they got 28.4 % (which is closer to 30% 30% than 25%) , they initially claimed it was "approimatively 25%" (ebay press release at the time), which fit Craig's//craigslist's story.  I find it intriguing that according to the complaint, Craig&amp;amp;Jim deluted craigslist to 25.01% (which definitely qualifies as "approximately 25%" as ebay initially said...) D. &lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Delia</dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 00:37:52 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: eBay and Craigslist: A fox in the henhouse</title><link>http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2008/04/30/ebay-and-craigslist-a-fox-in-the-henhouse/#comment-400653</link><description>&lt;p&gt;why on earth aren't people pointing this out? I mean, The New York Times, Reuters, Associated Press... they must have noticed the difference, no? D.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Delia</dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 00:27:03 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: eBay and Craigslist: A fox in the henhouse</title><link>http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2008/04/30/ebay-and-craigslist-a-fox-in-the-henhouse/#comment-400634</link><description>&lt;p&gt;I'm not sure, Delia -- Craig has always said that eBay had 25 per&lt;br&gt;cent, but eBay has always claimed it was 28 per cent.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">mathewi</dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 00:19:02 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: eBay and Craigslist: A fox in the henhouse</title><link>http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2008/04/30/ebay-and-craigslist-a-fox-in-the-henhouse/#comment-400564</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Matthew,&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I'm just curious... how do you suppose ebay got more than 25% of craigslist? that wasn't Craig's / craigslist's story was it?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Delia&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Delia</dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 23:53:58 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: eBay and Craigslist: A fox in the henhouse</title><link>http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2008/04/30/ebay-and-craigslist-a-fox-in-the-henhouse/#comment-400425</link><description>&lt;p&gt;I agree, Paul -- but certain legal friends of mine disagree  :-)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;They say a true poison pill is used to prevent a public company from&lt;br&gt;being taken over, and they argue that that can't possibly happen in&lt;br&gt;this case because Jim and Craig control the company.  All Craigslist&lt;br&gt;is really trying to do is prevent eBay from selling to someone other&lt;br&gt;than them.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;My argument is that saying "poison pill," while not strictly correct,&lt;br&gt;is a lot easier than saying "a dilutive shareholders' rights agreement&lt;br&gt;that floods the company with cheap stock as a way of trying to prevent&lt;br&gt;someone from doing something involving the shares."&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">mathewi</dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 23:09:04 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: eBay and Craigslist: A fox in the henhouse</title><link>http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2008/04/30/ebay-and-craigslist-a-fox-in-the-henhouse/#comment-400405</link><description>&lt;p&gt;I'd still call this a poison pill. After all, from Craiglist's point of view Ebay definitely meets the criteria for being a hostile would-be acquirer.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Paul Kedrosky</dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 23:03:16 -0000</pubDate></item></channel></rss>