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Comments: Messy and flawed, but valuable

Started by mathewi · 7 months ago

I’m cross-posting this from my blog at the Globe and Mail, as part of my ongoing attempt to talk about what we’re trying to do at the newspaper when it comes to comments, blogs, forums and other ways that we interact with readers. Feel free to respond here or at the Gl ... Continue reading »

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  • I like the ability to leave comments on a news story and to hear the perspectives from other readers - whether I agree with their views or not. If anything it broadens the context of the news story by allowing readers to share how the story impacts them. Who knows, those comments might even spark a follow-up story, which of course your paper would know is relevant and timely because the idea for it comes directly from your community of readers.

    I think it's a good idea and also a fair request to invite your community to help monitor those comments that cross the line. In this way, the community self-regulates and that helps to keep the discussion vibrant and on point.
  • Thanks, Melany. At last, someone who agrees with me :-) That is exactly what I see as the primary benefit of comments -- exposure to people who either think differently or are directly impacted by a story, as well as the opportunity to let those comments enhance future stories on the topic.
  • The Tyee confronted the comment issue last year and redesigned their system. It might be worth looking at. Here's what they wrote at the time:

    http://thetyee.ca/Mediacheck/2007/05/15/TalkOnl...

    And here's what I thought:

    http://bit.ly/T4Ms
  • Thanks a lot for pointing that out, Darren -- some great food for thought in there, and in some of the other places that the Tyee points to that have been struggling with the same things, like the Washington Post and Slate.
  • Markus Frind wrote something interesting on his blog yesterday, about the value of NOT asking your users for feedback and suggestions. Not directly related to your piece, but in the same realm of the whole role-of-community debate.

    What I do think is needed is a bit more honesty and respect on both sides. Those who are calling for the death of old media need to acknowledge how valuable real journalism can be; and those who are terrified of old media's struggle with the new need to do a bit more embracing.
  • I couldn't agree more, Daniel. Thanks for the link to Markus's post.
  • Comments are an incredible opportunity for engagement that the blog reading generation comes to expect. Good on you for working with it.
  • Thanks, Mark.
  • With a data analysis background, I am of the opinion that the next step is going to be text mining of the comments to extract valuable information. As commenting grows in popularity, humans will be unable to manage the data -- as we're already seeing when comments grow to high counts. What will we do with the data?

    Open-ended questions are difficult to analyze. Comments are open-ended. Providing "votes" or "ratings" can turn into a popularity contest, even with defined categories.

    I predict that as commenting grows in popularity, it will lose any importance as there will be no one to read, and react to, those comments...unless, there is a way to mine useful information from those comments.

    Cameron
    Defining Your Home Garden (blog)
  • On a blog, comments are essential. Its all about community building. I think it would be nice to have some kind of mechanism so that comments can be rated by others. The best comments would rise to the top, while flaming and spam would eventually "fall off" the bottom of the list. Would reduce the need for moderation as well.
  • HI Mathew.

    I have come to conclude that comment threads created, read, dugg up or down are in themselves valuable if one can somehow harness all that data and make meaningful information out of it. An example. If the sum of my comments around the subject of Bonsai are dugg, voted up, piled-on all across my posts across the Internet, then perhaps I become the recognized expert on Bonsai pruning...next thing you know, someone looking to hire top talent in the field of Bonsai care is going to find me. The challenge, how to harness all that data across tens, hundreds, thousands of comment threads and disparate ways of counting and measuring the data?

    Disclaimer - I am no expert in Bonsai care...only in my green dreams. And, I did not notice Cameron's Blog handle before I dreamed up the Bonsai reference...love the irony.

    Andy

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