DISQUS

Dominic Jones · 1 year ago

$399? BEFORE I read anything, including stuff that used to be free? Wad dem smokin' indeed.

Tony Hung · 1 year ago

It is truly and utterly fugly. I don't care what anyone says about holding it, or "people called the Nano fugly", or what have you. That thing was dropped out of the fugly tree and was hit numerous times on the way down. I mean jaysus, with all that beige and the hard edges, it practically *screams* beige-box PC, circa 1995. (Where's the Gateway logo, man?)

mathewi · 1 year ago

yeah, I have to agree, Tony -- it doesn't even have a kind of anti-chic ugly look. It's just plain ugly.

Rob Hyndman · 1 year ago

Yup - I'm wondering how anything that ugly makes it though to production. Bezos must have wanted this one *an awful lot* for all those smart people to bite their lip.

On the pay for blogging thing - like any other wireless service, I suppose people wouldn't be paying to read blogs so much as they'd be paying for the convenience of being able to do it wherever. I mean, it's just a device specialized for reading, isn't it? I suppose there *might* be lots of written content that people might want to access wherever or a device that makes reading a pleasure.

Well, no, there isn't, actually. ;)

strfireblue · 1 year ago

My first reaction to seeing photos of the Kindle was to react as others did. This thing is waaay too ugly for anyone to want to purchase it. Not with the iPod as comparison. People looking for new gadgets want something that's slim and shiny, which the Kindle clearly is not.

Avid book readers, and ebook readers like myself, may not be turned off as quickly. I read all my books on a Palm Zire, whose tiny screen kills my eyes on a daily basis. If I'm willing to sacrifice my vision to bring my books with me, then I think I could shell out some cash to have something as ugly as the Kindle. It's the books I care about, not what the reader looks like.

If it was $100 cheaper I'd be all over it.

Daniel Ha · 1 year ago

I didn't look into the Kindle at all really, but it looks like an uglier way more expensive Sony Reader.

wrs · 1 year ago

Well, the Kindle is a kind of service, isn't it? So why not try to charge for it? Being bound to sit on a computer to read blogs is a drawback.

I think Bezo's approach is perfectly in the line of Techdirts unified theory on the economics of free.

mathewi · 1 year ago

If Amazon wants to charge for the wireless access, that's fine with me. Charging for the content is a different story.

Are they going to have tiers or packages like cable? You can have a bundle with Proust, Dostoevsky, the New York Times and PaidContent, but not Engadget, unless you get the sports package... what a nightmare.

Douglas E. Welch · 1 year ago

Of course, the blog subscription serivce also begs the question, if Amazon is making money off a blog, where does the creator of that blog sign up to get their cut of the profits. Every content creator deserves to be compensated when money is made off their content, regardless of how its delivered.

Is Amazon contracting with certain bloggers to make their content available for a fee? One would hope.

Douglas

GearsofWar · 1 year ago

They are paying a kickback to the bloggers listed, based on subscriptions sold:
http://www.amazon.com/ref=kinw_ddp/b?node=24164...

Now, correlate that list with how those blogs are currently covering the launch, given they have been given a stake in its success :p

Matthew Miller · 1 year ago

I was under the impression that bloggers would pay the monthly fee to be featured on the Kindle, not that people would pay to subscribe to blogs. If people had to pay for blogs, wouldn't Amazon have to pay the bloggers for monetizing their content? I don't think Amazon can charge for content that I write and intend to make free to people, can they?

mathewi · 1 year ago

I assume they're going to make deals with certain blogs, Matthew. At least that's the way I read the Newsweek story.

Tony · 1 year ago

Amazon is in favor of DRM-free these days (as evidenced by their MP3 store). I don't think they'd do DRM books since that's not really their style.

Ryan Block · 1 year ago

Thanks! Although I might be 5% more flattered if you felt we were worth paying for, too.

mathewi · 1 year ago

Tell you what, Ryan -- let's cut Jeff out of the loop and I'll send you the 99 cents a month directly :-)

Aaron Huslage · 1 year ago

You forget that there apparently is *no* monthly service fee associated with the device. I'm sure you (or someone you know and love) pays for your bandwidth at your home or office.

Charging a small monthly fee for certain things makes sense (although .99 seems a bit steep) given the network connectivity that you're getting for free if you don't download anything onto the device. Someone has to pay the bills.

Amazon, whomever they're buying their wireless from and the blog publishers are not charities. They want to build an industry and if they need to actually <gasp> charge money for stuff then we as consumers will need to assign value to those things.

Just going OMG they're gonna CHARGE for something that I read for Free( like this blog...the one with ADS all over it that pay for it) is not the solution to solving your content woes, my friend.

mathewi · 1 year ago

Aaron, I don't have any content woes -- I read things on the Internet and they are free, apart from what I pay to access the Internet. If Amazon wants to charge a fee for the wireless access, that makes sense to me -- but then I already pay a fee for my cellphone, and I can read any blog or information source I want to on there as easily as I can on the Kindle.

David · 1 year ago

It doesn't look so ugly if you look at the final product, which is a tone whiter than the FCC leaked one.

Check out http://www.mobileread.com/forums/forumdisplay.p... for some real photos.

Constance Reader · 1 year ago

It looks like some sort of handheld medical device, like a heart or blood sugar monitor. Now THAT'S ugly.

And for $399? My library card is free, my books don't need batteries and they won't be destroyed if I drop them.

I can also see air travel hassles. I travel a lot for business and I've seen several occasions on which a traveler patiently tried to explain what "airplane mode" means to a flight attendant who refused to listen. You'd think the airlines would have sent a memo or something, but...

HalJ · 1 year ago

Wait, as a blogger, are they going to pay US to allow our blogs to stream on their device? If not, I'll look for a way to block it. Blogs are monetized by ads, and how would I make money from those readers? Surely we could block their IP range from accessing our work.

mathewi · 1 year ago

It's something you have to sign up with Amazon to be part of, Hal --
as PaidContent and others have. That raises an interesting question
though: if I pay for those feeds on the Kindle, do they come with ads?

pants part deux · 1 year ago

wow. this thing looks like a medical device.
awesome.
dont let motorola see this! they will want to add a camera + mp3 player to it!

panamajack · 1 year ago

I suppose Amazon sees this precisely as a way to *creatively* charge for the EVDO bandwidth in an ala carte fashion (while also trying to make a buck for themselves and their affliated A-list bloggers) ... which does make a bit of sense when considering that your Kindle book purchase is directly subsidizing the bandwidth as well. Certainly though the web has come full circle when it comes to providing free content (when is the G&M going to drop online subscriptions a la the NYT and WSJ by the way ?).

How much would you personally pay to have unlimited RSS feeds downloadable whereever you go? How about a selection of any 20 blogs provided ? I think the latter at $5 a month would be my pricepoint.

Oh but why oh why so fugly !

wraith808 · 1 year ago

Being able to download books wirelessly... I already do that on my phone. And my phone does other stuff. Like... make calls. And i can carry it with me anywhere. I jumped on the whole dedicated reader thing when it came out a few years ago, and didn't like it. And I don't see anything compelling about this entry, either.

panamajack · 1 year ago

Wraith, where can you wirelessly download new releases (in any format) for $9.99?

Heck, where can you download any major new hardcover release for $9.99 ?

wraith808 · 1 year ago

Fictionwise.com? Mobipocket.com? I can do it from either from my Blackjack... and did it on my mx220 and my HTC Star Trek... this isn't new.

Karoli · 1 year ago

I don't get the whole concept. First of all, what is the point of the keyboard if you're reading, not writing? Second, I know of no eBook reader that's been even moderately successful no matter how much buzz there is around it, so why would they put any effort into this? Being a bookworm myself, I'd much rather have that new book with the freshly-printed smell and smooth paper in my hand.

The only application that I can see for a device like this is educational. If textbooks can be put on it, it would be helpful for students. But even then, college students would just as soon have it on their laptop, and K-12 students wouldn't necessarily be trusted to keep it operational, so I'm not sure it's a great solution for that either.

mathewi · 1 year ago

I agree, Karoli. It seems like a gadget with no obvious reason for
being. Kind of like the Segway :-)

Raymond · 1 year ago

I think this is unfair for all the bloggers around the world. Amazon was not the one who writes the blog, why the heck would he ask for a payment for something that he didn't publish?

Come to think about it, Amazon is serving us with Whispernet for free.. So do you think they will compensate the payment from whispernet through the means of paid subscription on blogs?

And, if this is the point.. Then should we also say that Amazon must divide the earnings to the bloggers?

Jeremy Toeman · 1 year ago

Good post Mathew - I think Kindle is failware ready to happen. My $0.02 http://www.livedigitally.com/2007/11/18/why-ama...